Wedding Photo “Shot List” – Introduction

October 2nd, 2009

Hi, I’m Carlin Comm, I’m a wedding photographer and wedding video producer. I originally wrote this for my own photo wedding clients, but I thought I’d share it and see what kind of response I got. I’ll update this as time goes along, and you’re more than welcome to come back and download a new version of it, OK?

I don’t want to come across here as some kind of Expert. This is YOUR WEDDING. So take it all with a grain of salt, if you see something that you like, great, feel free to use it. There is going to be a lot happening on your wedding day, and odds are you really don’t know what to expect. So, with that in mind, here are some things that might help you survive your wedding day.

It never fails, at some point when we are taking the group portraits, someone will ask if we took a picture with the Bride and Aunt Sally. After a few hundred shots, they start to blend together. If we have a shot list, and someone is keeping track of it with a pen and checking them off, it is easy to say we got it.

If you think about it, you probably have at least one friend or family member who is always telling people what to do. They’re perfect for this job! While we’re taking the pictures of the brides maids, the Shot List Person can be lining up the groomsmen. The Photographer can take the pictures, the wedding party can smile for the picture, and things flow smoothly. As we take a shot, we cross it off the list.

It helps if the Shot List Person knows the families, so if we have to find someone, we know who we are looking for. I once took pictures of a wedding and we were about 15 minutes into things before someone noticed we were missing one of the groomsmen. He eventually showed up, but then we had to retake some pictures. Because we had the shot list, it was pretty easy to just go back and reshoot those pictures that he was in, and all was good.

It also helps to have someone as a designated Runner, someone who is not in the wedding party. Say we need some paper towels because the bridesmaids flowers are dripping on the dresses. Send the Runner, that way we don’t lose the bridesmaids, and we can keep taking pics. If we need the Grandparents, and they’re siting in the shade somewhere, we can send the Runner, and keep things rolling.

So, since our survival depends on this Shot List, how do we make it?

If you create your list on your computer, it’s easier to change it, plus when your friend gets married, you can give her a copy, and look like a superstar! The idea is to have a complete list of every picture you want when we are done. So if you want a special picture with you, your mom, and your Aunt Sally, write it down. If you’re like most Brides, you’ll have a lot on your mind, and its easy to forget things like that. Once you have the basic shot list set up, go back and try to put it in order. For example, so that the Bride doesn’t have to move into and out of shots too much. Save the pics with Kids and Grandparents until last, so its not such a long day for them.

If you see something I forgot here, be sure to add it to your list! These are your pictures! Its a good thing to get involved.

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Wedding Photo “Shot List”

October 2nd, 2009

(there is a separate post that explains why you need this, look for that too!)

Start with a set of photos with the Bride by herself. It’s Her Day, after all!

Then a couple Groom by himself, then Bride and Groom together.

For scheduling purposes, just plan on the Bride and Groom starting at least half an hour early.

Then we bring in the whole wedding party. If there are kids, we bring them in last.

  • Bride with all bridesmaids
  • Bride with each bridesmaid individually
  • Bride with all groomsmen
  • Bride and Groom with Maid of Honor and Best Man
  • Whole wedding party (no kids)
  • Whole wedding party (with kids)
  • Bride with Flower Girl
  • Bride and Groom with Flower Girl and Ring Bearer
  • (Then Bride takes a little break)
  • Flower Girl and Ring Bearer
  • Groom with Ring Bearer
  • (Ring Bearer and Flower Girl are done, so its a good time for a Snack Break)
  • Groom with all groomsmen
  • Groom with each groomsmen individually
  • Groom with all bridesmaids

We’re done with the Wedding Party

Then we start getting the parents shots

  • Bride with her parents
  • Bride and Groom with Brides Parents
  • Bride with both Moms
  • Groom with his parents
  • Groom with both Dads
  • Bride and Groom with Grooms Parents
  • Bride and Groom, Both sets of Parents
  • Grandparents (as with parents)
  • Bride and Groom, all parents and grandparents

Then if you have brothers / sisters, you can do a family shot and extended families. For example, Bride, Brides brothers and sisters, her parents, etc. By now, we should be ready to take a break, freshen up, and then go do the ceremony. Oh yeah, guess we still have to do the ceremony!

See how that works? Hope that gets you off to a good start!

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Wedding Tips – Wedding Day Time Management

October 2nd, 2009

So, I shot a wedding a while ago. Nice people, we had fun. Maybe I’ll post pictures sometime!

But the reason I’m writing today, is some reminders of what I’ve seen at most weddings I’ve shot in the last 9 or 10 years.

Its just so easy to lose track of time!

Here’s a quick run through of the basic times we were shooting for, hopefully if you’re planning your own wedding, this will help you out.

Oh, this might help, I was the photographer for this wedding. Just so you know right?

Wedding Day, I was at the church at 07:45 am. The Bride said she would be at the church between 8:00 and 8:30, she was getting hair and make up and dressed at the church, so I was going to get some pictures of all that madness. Its so much easier on everyone if the Bride can get ready at the church, less running around, set up of gear, etc. Just a tip there!

So I’m there all early and ready to go, and while I was waiting I walked around and got some pictures of the outside of the church, accidently woke up a homeless guy who was sleeping in the bushes.

9:05 the Bride rolls in. Ok, no problem right? So I help her get her stuff in the church, I get my own gear moved inside, and we get things going. I get some initial shots of her “before”, help hang the dress up, then I go up stairs to the sanctuary to set up my light stands and test everything. Things are working great, so back down stairs.

Our plan was to start photographs at noon, and be done photos at 2 pm, with the ceremony starting at 3 pm. That’s plenty of time, really, “IF” everyone is on track and ready to go.

Every now and then I’d look at my watch and announce the time, not to rush people, but just to make them aware of what time it was so there were no surprises ok?

With everything going on, the Bride was dressed, veil, hair, make up, shoes, garter, ready at 11:45. Great! Then we had some lunch delivered, so we all grabbed a sandwich, and the bride and I went upstairs to get her shots. The plan was to do Bride and Groom first, then the rest of the wedding party, Groomsmen and Bridesmaids at 12:30 to 1pm, bring in the family and the little ones, Flower Girls, Ring Bearers last, and then we’d do some pictures after the ceremony for anyone who wasn’t there like extended family etc.

So its 12:30, we have the Bride and Groom, but the Groom doesn’t have his boutonniere on yet.

Here’s another tip, things I picked up along the way. TRY to have a designated “runner” person, preferably someone who is not in the wedding party photos, who can go get things for you! In our case we did have one of the ushers handy who actually had running shoes on, and he was awesome! While he was fetching the Groom’s boutonniere, we were able to get some other pictures, like the Bride and Groom facing the alter. Since I was shooting them from the back for this picture, no boutonniere needed right?

Ok, we have the boutonniere so we get the next few pictures done. Great. Now its about 1:00, time for the Bridesmaids and Groomsmen. Bigger wedding party this week, like 6 guys plus the 4 little guys, and a whole herd of ladies. Some of them were ready, but not all of them.

I’m looking at my shot list (bonus tip, have the Bride give you a list of what shots she wants! I’ll post a starter list here sometime, look for it!) It happened that the Groom’s parents were there and ready, so we got them done early. Cool. Look around, nope, still missing some groomsmen and bridesmaids. Now its 1:30. … 1:35. Finally we have all the ladies here, so we crank through the “Bride and All Bridesmaids” then “Bride and individual Bridesmaid” pictures.

Once we had everyone there, it goes REALLY fast.

The problem is people would wander off. Or one person would leave looking for someone else, who would then come back and then we’d lost the second person. Or was that the first person?

So, if you are a Bride or a Groom planning a wedding, please PLEASE talk to your people, weeks before the wedding, and explain this ok? Be on time. Be there, in the church or where you are getting pictures taken. Sit down. Be Quiet! Pictures can be done very quickly if everyone is ready and on task. Then we can all go take a break. Otherwise its just a train wreck!

I felt so bad for this Bride, she was just beside herself. No one was there, people were stuck in traffic, or just not ready, and she just looked like her head would explode. I’d look at her and smile, and tell her it was fine, we’d have plenty of time, no problem.

As it turned out, at 2:10 we were all done, a bit over, but not too bad. We got out of the santuary, the sound crew got their mics set up, the runner was placed. No one had to die. And the pictures look great too!

Lessons and Tips

  1. Make a detailed list of photos you want
  2. Then arrange them in order. I recommend Bride and Groom first, then Wedding Party, then kids, then parents.
  3. Know what time you have to be done photos. I recommend at least 1 hour before ceremony time.
  4. Bride and Groom pics should be 3 hours before ceremony time. This gives you enough time to deal with issues and not feel rushed. And if you get done early, you can sit down and take a break. Always a good thing!
  5. Have someone from the family help with the shot list, to account for people, mark shots off as they are done.
  6. Be very aware of the time through out the getting ready process! Bring a clock. Have someone remind you. Use a beeper timer.
  7. A week before the wedding, or more, do a practice run getting ready. Wedding Hair and Make up takes longer!
  8. The more “helpers” you have, the slower it goes. Give your self an extra hour. Then another extra hour. Trust me!
  9. Hire professional help! Hair and Make up. Photographers, Videographers, Wedding Coordinators. All expensive but absolutely worth it. And spend some time getting to know them if possible before hand. They’ll be in your face all day. Pick nice people :)
  10. Have a master list of all phone numbers of your people, and make copies of it. Give a copy to everyone. Home numbers, cell numbers, location numbers (church, restaraunt, catoring, limo, flowers, etc) If I had a dollar for everytime I’ve seen a Bride melt down because her phone was dead, and all the numbers were on the phone…

There, that should get you thinking :)

Or… elope?

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About Your Perfect Wedding

October 2nd, 2009

(Quick note here – officially 2009 is my last year of shooting weddings. I might do one now and then, if someone asks really nice! The purpose of this blog is to help share some of what I learned. Hopefully it helps you out!)

I sometimes forget that not everyone knows what to expect for their wedding!

I’ve been shooting weddings for about 10 years now, and I have to remind myself that just because something is obvious to me, doesn’t mean that You, my customer, knows what’s going on!

So, lets see if we can get off to a good start, shall, we?

Lets start off with some easy stuff…

I shoot all weddings with digital cameras. If you’re the kind of person who wants to know all the specs and model numbers and names of the widgets, please to email me, and I’d be happy to type up a list of my current gear. With that said, though, things change fast. It seems like once or twice a year I’m buying something new, selling something on Ebay, or I just got rained on and had to replace something that wasn’t as waterproof as we thought it would be!

Something else to keep in mind, some of the buzz words are less important than you think they might be. Knowing how to get the most out of gear is often more useful than having the newest and greatest toys!

In the photo world, and especially in the digital photo world, there is always someone with a bigger and better camera. I shoot with all Canon at the moment, have been shooting with Canon Digital SLR cameras for 6 years or so now, and have used their digital video cameras since my first wedding back around 2000. So I’m comfortable with them, I have a good range of accessories. Nikon makes wonderful cameras, and there are other quality names out there as well. Would I trade? probably not, because I know how to get the most out of my camera, and I don’t have to stop and think about something when I see a great shot!

Another thing I’d like to say, there are some of the greatest shots on my websites that were taken with either my old Canon 30D, which was a 3 megapixel camera, or my Digital Rebel, which was a 6 MP camera. The perfect sunset didn’t care what my camera was right? It did care that I knew how to go out of auto and into manual exposure though!

Prices, experience, work flow, and camera gear

If you’re been planning your wedding for more than a day, you’re probably getting an idea that weddings can be kind of expensive. Yeah, sorry about that!

There is always a wide range of options, prices, and packages. Vendors all have their own ways of doing things. I’ve chosen to do things in a Fun, Inexpensive, and pretty Quick way. There are photographers who take very VERY nice pictures, but they’re slow, they’re painstakenly detailed. They’ll fluff the dress 4 or 5 times. They’ll prune the bushes behind the group photo. Really. I have seen photographers stop everything, so they could go move a dead branch. I’m sure it looked better. But by the end of the day we’re all just ready for cake and dancing right?

So I make it a point to get through pictures as quickly as we possibly can. We’ll still get the great shots, I’ll make sure you look your best, and I’ll really watch for distracting things in the backgrounds. No one wants a school bus or porta potty in their wedding pictures right?

I got a unique training when I started shooting weddings. My first 3 years I only shot video. I really thought I knew a lot when I started. Hmmm, not so much! Anyway, as a video guy, I got to stand there and record a wide range of photographers shooting wedding photos. Some photographers wouldn’t even let me video tape the photo sessions, which I guess is fine. But the ones I did get to watch, I soon realized had a pretty unique style. They’d all get most of the same shots, but how they got there was fun to watch! I started to notice that some of the best photograhers, based on the wedding party’s attitude, were the quickest.

That’s when I figured out that most people really don’t like doing the formal portrait part of weddings. Sure it seems fun for a while, but a formal session can last an hour or two pretty easily. Or 3 hours even!

By having a plan, and getting everyone’s attention early on, we can get through the pictures really quick, and have time to relax, freshen up, and chill before we get to either the ceremony or the reception.

Brings up a good point. If it was up to me, I’d do all formals before the ceremony. Feel free to ask me about this, I have a lot of good reasons why. But hey, its your wedding, you’ll do it how ever you want right? :)

If you are starting to realize you might need some help, lets talk ok? I’ve seen things that I could probably share with you, so we both get through the wedding smiling!

“My” Perfect Wedding

Sometimes I get lucky, or through a lot of practice, things work out well. Take your pick!

What seems to work best, is if we do Formal pictures Before the Ceremony. Bride and Groom will see each other. I know, not traditional. But much easier on everyone. And trust me, if you’re thinking of being all emotional and all that fun wedding stuff, walking down the aisle to the wedding march, it won’t be a problem at all.

So, what we do is have Bride and Groom see each other, we set up a fun shot, then we leave you two alone for a few minutes, so you can just have your moment right? We do the Bride photos first, just her by her self, then a couple quick Groom pics, then Bride and Groom together. I’d say that could take 30 minutes. Pay attention to times ok? Next we bring in the Wedding Party (not the kids or parents yet, just the Groomsmen, Best Man, Bridesmaids, Maid of Honor). Wedding Party pics can get done in less than half an hour if everyone is ready, and we all pay attention. At the end of that set we bring in the Flower girls, Ring bearers, and do a quick set there. Kids get tired quickly, so lets keep them on “set” as short a time as possible.

Then Parents and extended families come in. This means we’re done with the rest of the Wedding Party, so they can go help decorate or what ever, or just take a break. Think of it this way, they’re there for you, but they really don’t want to sit through 4 hours of formals right? So cut them some slack!

We do Grandparents just before the Ceremony, and all the aunts and uncles etc. OR we pick them up right after the Ceremony. Odds are there will be a few people who aren’t ready, so we’ll plan on some quick clean up after the Ceremony.

If all goes well, we have an hour to sit down and relax, before the Ceremony. Nice right? Try to leave at least 2 hours for formals, before the ceremony. Then add in an extra hour. And we really want to have the bride hidden before the guests show up. And some of them will show up an hour early. I don’t know why, but there will be 6 people there, sitting in the front row, ready to go. Then we’ll have to move them because the parents get the front row!

“My” not so Perfect Wedding

Here’s some things that will mess up the timing. Starting with Least Favorite!

“Traditional” has us taking all pictures between the Ceremony and the Reception. If we do this at the Church, we have to deal with all the guests who won’t just leave right after the ceremony. They’ll want to stand around and talk, even if its just among them selves. Sure I get that, some of them haven’t seen each other since the last wedding. Fine. But its tough to get right into pictures if we have 200 people in the way.

Also, the more people who are “helping” the slower things will go!

As a professional photographer, I realize there will be at least 3 blue haired ladies who want to take pictures of every single set up we do. Honestly, I don’t mind. Sometimes they have a good idea even! But if we have to work around each other, it will slow things down considerably. Also adding to the situation, the more people that are there, the louder it gets. I’m not a big fan of yellling at people. And I don’t know everyone. So if we’re trying to do a shot with the bride, groom, and uncle Tom, and its really loud, its tough to get Tom’s attention right?

Ok, that’s “traditional”. Here’s something that is slightly traditional, but its actually not really an improvement.

Someone came up with the idea of taking pictures Before the Ceremony, but of still not having the Bride and Groom see each other. Seems genius right? Except…

Say we start with the Bride and Brides maids. Ok. Then we can do Bride with All brides maids, then add in flower girl. Then Bride with Each bridesmaid. Then we might do Bride with all the groomsmen. If the guys are there and ready. Then Bride with her parents. And grandparents. Ok, then the Bride leaves, and the Groom gets there. Groom with all the groomsmen. Groom with each groomsmen. Groom with all the bridesmaids. Groom and his parents… grandparents.

Gee, we should be mostly done right? Not even close.

Because now, after the ceremony we still have to set up all the shots only this time the Bride and Groom are in each of them! So, now we’ve had all of our wedding party there through practically 3 full sets of pictures, including parents, grandparents, and the kids.

Oh, and now it sounds like I’m wining right? Sure, I’m paid to be there, its ok! But you just KNOW there will be one or two people who are not there on time. Or we’ll run late getting the Bride’s dress on. Sure, we know somethings going to happen right? So we’re all ready to go, then we say, well, lets get these pictures done while we are waiting. So more often than not, the whole list gets scrambled.

List… oh right, we really should make an actual LIST of what pictures we want to take. Bonus points if you supply someone to actually hold the list, and have a pen, and they can help line up people. Because let me tell you! After we get started, and you start going through the combinations, its so easy to forget if we got this exact picture or not.

And I know, I’ve never been a Bride myself, but I work with Brides all the time. They’re stressed, they’ve probably not slept well the last week. They haven’t eaten a normal meal in 3 days, so their blood sugar is somewhere around ZERO. And EVERYONE is trying to hug her, or kiss her, or offer some “advice” or ask her where she would like something. I’ve seen normally intelegent people turned into drooling zombies by weddings… and they weren’t all my assistants!

So, Brides… work with me here. At least 2 or 3 weeks before your wedding, contact me. Lets work on making your Shot List of all the pictures you really want. You will not remember them all. I don’t know your people. I have no idea who Aunt Bess is. I’ve started a really nice template for you, which I’ll be more than happy to email you. Its a Starting point!

And why do we want someone to help with the list? Simple really. I don’t know your people. If you have a friend who is not in most of the pictures, they can be a huge help to all of us by holding the list, and crossing them off as we go. Plus, odds are they know at least half of your people. So they can look around and see that we have all the groomsmen there and ready. They might be able to help pin on coursages. They’ll be able to help keep people “herded” into little groups so we don’t lose people. You would just not believe how fast people wander off and you never see them again. I once lost 3 bridesmaids who all went to go find someone else.

Recap!

Pictures BEFORE the ceremony, simpler because we control that block of time. We can ask people to be there at a certain time, and they might be there even. We don’t have to deal with all the guests. We can get pics done, take a break, and be happy shining people for the Ceremony.

Oh, and here’s one other thing most people don’t notice… took me a few years to catch this myself actually! If we have the Ceremony, then 2 hours of pictures, then we finally get to the Reception… think about your guests. What have they been doing in that 2 hours? If they went straight to the reception, they’ve been bored waiting for you most likely. Maybe there were some drinks and snacks for them. That would be nice right? But by the time we get there from pictures, we’re just getting there, but they’re internal clock has been running for 2 or 3 hours now. Even if we kick up the music and get the party rolling, its too late.

Most of the times, if we do photos between Ceremony and Reception, and the Reception was scheduled to run to midnight, its a ghost town by 10 pm. I wish I’d thought to do a graph or something over the last 10 years. But you’ll just see people dropping out way too early, and I think its because of that 2 hour photo shoot between the Ceremony and Reception.

Ok, I’ve gone on and on about that. Its your wedding. I’ll support you in what ever way I can. Really!

Questions? Email me! Or call… no, really just email me  :)

Thanks for reading… and remember, weddings are fun, so you better smile :)

Carlin

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